I had to be willing to risk myself for what I wanted. And so our language began to work in translation. But I feel like oftentimes white women are also afraid to sacrifice any comfort or any power.
I feel like if anyone was going to reach white men, it's white women.
[INHALES] But, yeah, I mean, I think hunger of all kinds, right? You know? I really want to talk about your poetry. We do a better job of dying by police than we do existing.
And it’s, you know, it's silly, because one of the first things I do when I get into a court, you know, especially, like — my favorite are the old wooden courts. NPR's Leila Fadel talks with author and poet Natalie Diaz about her new book, Natalie Diaz is a former basketball player, a member of the Gila River Indian tribe and a poet.NATALIE DIAZ: (Reading) Native Americans make up less than 1% of the population of America, 0.8% of 100%. NATALIE DIAZ: (Reading) Native Americans make up … It's called "American Arithmetic. It’s the same thing with my family. Oh, mine efficient country.FADEL: In her latest collection, "Postcolonial Love Poem," Natalie writes about what it's like to live in a land that holds the legacy of her tribe's near genocide. All rights reserved. And this woman brought their, uhh … their change back from the trip that they had gone on. Epps looks like Pittsburgh Steelers coach Mike Tomlin who was born in Hampton, Virginia, which is close to Old Dominion University, where I played. And so, while they had no problem with me having a partner — living with my lover — suddenly, when they had to speak about it is when they begin to have trouble about it, because those words had only ever before to them meant something negative. And I think about them because I think, in the context of thinking about food deserts — but also thinking about food scarcity.NATALIE: Number 7: I am afraid that — that human beings have diminished the world in such a way that they can no longer exist on it at a very near point in the future.NATALIE: 8, Number 8: Something else I'm scared of is that the work that I've chosen to devote myself to — that it will have no effect on America. And [PAUSE] I’ll never forget an image that’s just kind of burned into me, is, um … We came home from school one day, and my father, he had, like, carried my mother to the shower to take a shower, like, she couldn't even do that. I am doing my best to not become a museum of myself. And so … my brothers and sisters, like, we all helped him wash her hair and stuff. Okay, ready? It means that there are things waiting for you that you will arrive at. By the way, if you want to hear more episodes of “10 Things That Scare Me,” go toKATHY: The “Nancy” team includes Zakiya Gibbons, Temi Fagbenle, Stephanie Joyce, Jeremy Bloom, and Paula Szuchman.TOBIN: The “10 Things” team includes Amy Pearl, Daniel Guillemette, Sarah Sandbach, Emily Botein, Melissa Chusid, and — once again — Paula Szuchman.
Natalie Diaz is a former basketball player, a member of the Gila River Indian tribe and a poet. I want to be deserving of it. I do not remember the days when we were all here. And I think, you know, the way I was taught is that you try to dream what you have to dream. I think it has something to do with my parents, but I can’t be sure. Natalie Diaz was born in the Fort Mojave Indian Village in Needles, California. Before completing an MFA in poetry and fiction in 2006, she played professional basketball in Europe and Asia. And it was really, uh, it’s like, just one of the scariest moments I've had is to wake up in the morning and then not know how you're gonna get through the day. All rights reserved. Because I was mostly an athlete.NATALIE: And that's really all anybody cared about, you know?NATALIE: Umm. So, at home, you know, when people think about me, they think about me in a couple of ways: either as, like, still — as having been an athlete, or the fact that I worked with language. Latinx. And so it's a different way of carrying oneself when you know that you're connected to something much larger than you.I wanted to kind of bring those questions. You know? Here’s what we’re gonna do — on the count of three, let’s just both say a fear out loud. Natalie Diaz (born September 4, 1978) is a Native American poet, language activist, former professional basketball player and educator.. And so what does it mean to be visible through pleasure, but also, what are the ways that I can stay private and intimate and whole in ways that America can't necessarily surveil me?FADEL: I mean, and the numbers you're using here are so stark in the way that you're using them, too, to almost talk about being less than a person.DIAZ: It's one of those paradoxes, you know, how we've been fractioned or divided by country or nation.
And it doesn’t — that operates very similarly to the way basketball was. So, um, [BREATH] I know what it feels like to have to have people bring you food, y’know? But during that time of her life, Natalie said that she didn’t openly identify as queer.NATALIE: When I played basketball I didn't need a — a kind of straightforward language to say [PAUSE] what I was. I mean … The love poem to me feels — it feels like us a space where I'm the most possible. We say (speaking non-English language). "DIAZ: (Reading) I do not remember the days before America. So, like, you know, I have a huge family, so being away from my family was — was really difficult.KATHY: Hmm. Please, someone call my mother.At the National Museum of the American Indian, 68% of the collection is from the United States.
There's an energy there.I don't know where the gift of poetry came from, but I do know it's in me and it's mine. [BREATH] Sometimes Xanax helps. I think that way. So for example, love, tenderness, pleasure, sexuality - those are some of the more intimate ways that I might be able to subvert the gaze of America or the Western gaze that's often placed on Indigenous or native peoples.
It becomes, like, the work of life. Tomlin went to school at William & Mary whose mascot was The Tribe. I mean, and sometimes to a fault! So, there was a, you know, a sequence of a few years that — maybe two to three years — when I was really uncomfortable even saying, you know, “queer poet.” And, y’know, and then you start to realize though that, “Okay, these words are being used as naming, as — as a — a powerful, like, a gesture of naming, of saying I exist, of saying I am here in this space.
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